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GATEWAY PROJECT MEETING
APRIL 4,2013
6:30 p.m.
Parkview Church
Iowa City,Iowa
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ANNOUNCER:We will do a brief
presentation,Mark and Melissa will take care of
that,and then we will open up the mic for comments.
We are going to try to get it so that everyone who
wants to make a comment has a chance to do that
before you circle back around.The other thing is if
you're like me and you wake up in the middle of the
night thinking gosh,I wish I said that,you have a
week to either mail or e-mail comments to us.All of
them are equally valid,all of them carry the same
weight,we just need them by April 15 to get them in
the final document.So with that I will turn it over
to Mark and Melissa.
MS.CLOW:Good evening.I am Melissa
Clow,the special projects administrator with Iowa
City.And I am just going to revisit for any of you
who don't know,I'm sure most of you do,what the
issues are for this project and why we are looking at
elevating Dubuque Street and Park Road Bridge.
We will be addressing the following issues:Historic
floods.In 1993 the road was closed for 60 days;and
then in 2008 it was closed for 30 days.And Park
Road Bridge was closed,in addition to Dubuque
Street,causing backwater all the way up to the Iowa
Power River Dam.
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Almost on a yearly basis we do experience
seasonal flooding along Dubuque Street.We almost
saw it this year.We've had flooding in the medians
quite a bit,but that appears to be coming down.
Anytime we have rains an inch or more per hour,you
will see flooding and closures on the northbound
Dubuque Street lanes.
We also have a number of infrastructure
issues along Dubuque Street that will need to be
taken care of whether or not we raise Dubuque.That
includes the pavement,it is over 30 years old.And
also turning lanes from Dubuque to Park Road.And
we're looking at dual turn lanes from Park Road to
Dubuque Street.
Talking about Park Road Bridge,it is
functionally deficient.We would be looking at deck
repair and there are also a number of safety issues
with their pedestrian codes and barriers that are
required now that currently do not exist.
Real quick I will touch on the project
purpose and need.This is our third and final
meeting for the planning process for the
environmental assessment.And our first step,if you
remember,was to establish this purpose and need.
The reason for the project will be to increase the
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reliability of Dubuque Street,increase the
reliability of Park Road Bridge,reduce that
backwater I talked about,and also improve the
infrastructure.
We will be taking a complete streets
approach to the project and we want to maintain this
park-like and unique setting that we have coming in
to Iowa City.
The one thing to note about this project is
that it is the one flood protection project that will
reduce the flood water elevations of the river.
Taking a look at the schedule really quick.Like I
said this is the last step of phase one and the
planning process.This is the big picture.For many
of you we have not gotten in to the fine details,the
final engineering,and we are hoping to start that in
the next month or two.That will be phase two.
We're looking at a year for final design.
That will include kind of the look of the project and
the landscape plan as well.And then phase three
will be two construction seasons in 2014 and 2015.
And with that I will turn it over to Mark Pearson.
MR.PEARSON:Thanks.Just before we get
going with the comment period I thought we would walk
through what the preferred alternative is that you
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have probably seen in the document,that you may have
been talking with folks from the city or from the
consultant staff this evening.
Starting with Dubuque Street,a couple
features related to that.As Melissa mentioned we
will be elevating the street.The change in
elevation will begin at the Foster Road intersection
and will tie back in with the existing elevation near
Brown Street.In that stretch the changes in
elevation will range anywhere from a foot upwards of
15 feet,especially near the Mayflower entrance and
as you get down to Kimball Road.
So it will be a higher street but it
follows the same alignment pretty much as it does
now,with the noted exception that in the vicinity of
Mayflower,between there and Foster,we have proposed
moving the alignment a little bit to the west towards
the park and away from the residents,from basically
Kimball --or from Park Road north through that
corridor.
During this time we will also be
constructing a number of,as Melissa has mentioned,
amenities related to the complete streets concepts.
So things like the bus and transit stops that are
there currently in the project,we will maintain
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those either close to or at their exact location.We
are going to work to build new trails and sidewalks
so that the trail that is along the west side of
Dubuque Street currently will be replaced.It might
be in a slightly different location,it might be a
different elevation,but it is going to be there.It
will be a ten-foot multi-use path.
On the eastern side of Dubuque Street there
will be new sidewalk along the whole corridor.On
Park Road Bridge there will be,in addition to the
five travel lanes for traffic,there will be two
10-foot multi-use paths so you'll have more room for
bicycle and pedestrian traffic on the bridge.And as
Melissa also mentioned,those will have additional
safety features to keep that traffic separate from
the pedestrians and bicyclists.
Another feature related to the longer Park
Road Bridge that we have proposed will be the ability
for users of the sidewalks and trails to actually
pass underneath the west side of the bridge so that
you're not facing a great crossing to get,say,from,
the Hancher side to the city park side.
One other aspect that I should mention is
that if you have existing driveway access on Dubuque
Street today,when we're done with the project you
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will still have driveway access.We made a concerted
effort to keep those.It might be,again,slightly
different,and we'll work those details out over the
next year,but again if you have driveway access
today you'll have it when we're done.
And also existing intersections with Ridge,
Taft Speedway,the entrance to the boathouse and
Terrell Mill Park will also be maintained.Again,
they will be slightly different but it will look very
much the same when we're done.
A little bit about the bridge.We're
proposing to have a steel or concrete girder bridge.
Similar probably in terms of construction type to the
new bridge that is on the south side of town --I'm
drawing a blank,on the name --McCallister.We
don't know what it is going to look like yet but we
do know that we're proposing a slightly longer
bridge,about 450 long instead of 300 feet.And it
will be a wider bridge because it will accommodate an
additional travel lane.We'll have five 12-foot
travel lanes for traffic,and then the additional
multi-use paths on either side of the bridge that I
mentioned before.
It is going to have similar transit access
in the vicinity of the bridge or on the bridge.Also
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some aspect that Melissa mentioned,there will be no
backwater caused by this new bridge.In fact,it
will have the net effect of reducing backwater that
was caused by the current bridge.We will be able to
do that by having fewer piers in the water.We will
be able to do that by having a longer span with the
abutments that are pulled further back to give the
water more room to pass.And it will be a higher
bridge than the current one.But the net effect of
that is that it minimizes or completely eliminates
any backwater whatsoever that the current bridge
causes.
And that kind of concludes the
presentation.Really the focus of this session is to
hear your comments.So we ask that anybody who is
interested in making a comment come on up,take your
time,but we do ask that you allow everybody who
wants to have a chance to speak at least make that
first pass.We're asking that everybody keep their
comments to about three minutes.
We're going to have a little hourglass just
so you have a sense of how much time you have.We're
not going to cut you off right at three minutes but
we do ask that you keep your comments to the point
and on topic.And then if you think of something
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else you want to add,after everybody has had a
chance to make their initial comment,if you want to
add something new feel free to do that.
We'll get set up here in just a second.
And then if anybody has a comment that you want to
make on the mic,all we do is ask that you step up,
please state your name and what your address is so we
know who you are.And we have a court reporter here
tonight.She'll transcribe it verbatim and then we
have that record of this.So we will get going with
that in just a second.
And it is real simple,if you want to make
a comment,step on up,state your name,residence.
And if you don't want to make a comment,that's fine
too.We can stick around a little bit later and
continue with the open house.It doesn't carry any
more weight than it does if you send us an e-mail or
write it down in the comment table back there.It is
just another means of making your comment heard,
so don't be shy.
MS.CLINE:My name is Sally Cline,I live
at 33 Trevose,Idlyllwild.It is just a question and
I hope you can answer it.But we have heard over the
past almost five years that Mayflower is going to
actually have a flood wall in front of its building.
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So if that is correct,then do we see Dubuque Street
below that or even to?
MS.CLOW:Yes,Mayflower is doing their
own separate flood mitigation project and that will
begin at the end of the current semester,so they'll
be starting this summer.
So we were trying to coincide the projects
together,but they will be starting this summer,we
will start next summer.They are going to have a
permanent wall and create a patio up there.On top
of the wall they'll have an invisible flood wall
which essentially is the removable panels that will
go in on top of it.
MS.CLINE:That is in front of some of the
University buildings,the art buildings?
MS.CLOW:Yes,so they'll be protected to
the 500-year flood elevation plus two feet.And our
environmental assessment is proposing the roadway to
be at the 500 plus one foot,so the roadway would be
above their first floor by a few feet.
MS.WALL:I am Mary Wall.I live on Ridge
Road.I have lived here since 1960.And I have been
mouthing off about this for a long time so I thought
maybe I better come and be informed about what it is.
Ever since 1960 parts of Dubuque Street have gone
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under water every single year.In '93,in 2008 it
was much more than usual.But I was joking in saying
what are they going to do,build a causeway with an
off ramp on the second floor to the Mayflower?
As I look at the plans and the things that
the engineering firm here has thought,I'm really
gratified.I'm glad I came tonight.I know that the
money is an awful lot of money,but I think in the
long run when things are done it looks to me like
they thought it out well and there probably will be a
great deal of improvement.That's all I wanted to
say.
MS.OWEN:My name is Daissy Owen and I
live at 2 Bella Vista Place.I have been there since
1974,so I am very close to where your work is going
to be.My concern is when are you going to quit the
noise every day?Is it going to be a 24/7,or are we
going to have some time to be able to rest from the
noise?
MS.CLOW:We do have a city noise
ordinance.And Ron,if I'm mistaken please correct
me,from 7:00 to 10:00 p.m.But we realize this is a
residential area so we will be enforcing more strict
ordinance that the noisy work be done at a proper
time.
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MS.OWEN:Yes,because we will be
listening to the noise all day,we will be --you
know,we need some time to rest at night.
MS.CLOW:Right.And there may be a few
times where we need to shut down the road entirely to
raise grade and meet intersections to keep the road
open,so there may be a few periods where there would
be longer hours of work,but you would be notified
well in advance and we will be communicating with you
when that would happen.
MS.OWEN:Thank you.
MR.KNOCHE:So there are times when we do
pour pavement and we have to cut in joints in that
pavement,make sure it doesn't crack early and make
sure it cracks where we want it to.If they're
pouring a pavement during the day and they get out
there and they're ready to saw cut at 3:00 in the
morning,that's when they'll have to be out there saw
cutting.So there may be some times when there'll be
some early morning,late evening types of work going
on,but we'll keep you informed of when that work is
going to occur.
MS.CLOW:So it would be one early
morning,not three or four in a row?
MR.KNOCHE:Correct.It could be later
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than --yes,it could be after that 10:00 p.m.,
between that 10:00 p.m.and that 7:00 a.m.timeframe.
I just want to make sure we don't make any promises
we can't hold up to,so --
MR.GEERDES:Greg Geerdes,890 Park Place
in Iowa City.
More of a question than a comment.When
you're raising the roadway the 5 to 15 feet that
you're contemplating,do you need to build a
retaining wall or anything along the riverside,or do
you have enough space to preserve the bank with this
new sill on top of it?
MS.CLOW:We will be building a retaining
wall between the bridge and Terrell Mill Park,
because we are very restricted in space there.And
to maintain the pedestrian way and create room for a
sidewalk on the east side we will need a retaining
wall.
MR.GEERDES:I can understand why you
would need to do that.The only point I would make
is I hope you pay attention to the aesthetics of that
because that's a big deal.
MS.CLOW:Definitely.
MR.GEERDES:And I note that you are
probably going to be tearing up the median between
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the north and the south lanes,so I would strongly
encourage you to coordinate the aesthetics and the
landscaping of this whole corridor.
MS.CLOW:Yes,the aesthetics are very
important to us and we want to maintain --the unique
look it has right now we want to maintain.The
retaining wall we do understand that you're going to
be able to view that from city park,so the
aesthetics of that is going to be very important as
well.
MR.GEERDES:Because that would be really
a bad deal if you didn't do it right,so --
MS.CLOW:Right.
MR.GEERDES:Thank you.
MR.COULTER:I'm Joe Coulter,I live at
1818 North Dubuque.That's my garage that's buried
over there right across the street.
As I understand,the present northbound
lane of Dubuque Street will be essentially abandoned
and a sidewalk be put down on the east side basically
over the old northbound lane.That would mean that
my garage will not be buried.
However,my question is that low place,
which always floods and receives runoff from Ridge
Road from up on the north end of Dubuque Street comes
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down there.And as I understand it there's not going
to be an elevation raise there.How is the runoff
going to be dealt with in that low area on the east
side of North Dubuque Street between essentially
Ridge Road and Foster Road?
MS.CLOW:If I understand you you're
talking about the drainage ditch that runs along
Foster?
MR.PEARSON:No.On your side?
MR.COULTER:On my side that always
floods,that floods first where the culvert is.
MS.CLOW:Along Bjaysville.That's a
detail we're going to decide during final design.We
have talked about sliding the ditch on the west side
over with the roadway so we would maintain that
culvert under Dubuque Street.And so that's one
option is to maintain the ditch.Or we could close
it in a box culvert and take it out that way.
MR.PEARSON:A lot of that drainage detail
still needs to get worked out during design,but what
we're trying to do is not just solve the flooding
problem from the river but also from the problems
that you describe.So there is a lot of drainage
study that still needs to be done to get that water
out of there and not cause that flooding.
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MR.COULTER:And as many of you know who
live there,in fact much of the water actually comes
from the river and it is coming back under the road
and that's why the water comes up there.And then it
doesn't matter how high the new Dubuque Street
Roadway is,if that's still a low place that's still
going to receive river backflow into there.
MS.CLOW:Right.That's exactly right.
That is one of the biggest drainage problems is that
at the Dubuque Street/Foster Road intersection the
grade of the drainage ditch is about equal to the
normal water elevation of the river.So anytime
there is high water in the river,it backs up through
the ditch all the way to that intersection.So that
is one of the hydraulic challenges Mark was just
talking about that we will be looking in to during
final design.
MR.JONES:I am Douglas Jones,I live at
816 West Park Road.
During the flood of 2008 I was --my garage
floor was about 12 to 18 inches above the high water
mark,so it was very close to being inundated.
During the flood I walked down and took a number of
pictures at the Park Road Bridge.And I have
pictures of a white water rapids pouring over Park
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Road on the west side of the bridge that illustrates
the amount of water that bridge held back.
It was really acting as a dam.And that dam is part
of the reason the water was as close to my house as
it was.So I'm really very strongly endorsing the
elevation of Park Road Bridge and the creating of a
much wider clear channel there so that the bridge
won't act as a filter to sieve out all the debris
floating in the water and build,what people who
worry about drainage,call a debris dam.We came
very close to damming the river with all the crud
that was sieved out after the water by the railings.
As to the elevation of Dubuque Street,I
think for the good of the city as a whole it is
absolutely essential.We just can't have closures of
major access roads to this town during every single
high water event,and that's where we have been in
the last decades with flooding.We need secure,
ready access to Iowa City from the north and we can't
handle shutdowns there.
When I look at the alternatives,we went
through three different preliminary alternatives
before this particular outline of the plan was
decided on,and this is far more sensible looking
than the earlier planning that I have seen.This
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really coincides with what I thought looks sensible
when I looked at those alternatives.And so I really
would like to see it go ahead.
MR.SOBOCINSKI:I'm Mike Sobocinski,I
represent the Phi Delta Theta Household Association.
We are technically the landlords for the fraternity
house at 729 North Dubuque Street.
We're always at --it seems like we're
always giving up something for city projects.We
have always worked with the city.My concern this
time is the elevation change to Dubuque Street
because it will impact our driveway access which is
at Brown Street.
During the last improvement of Dubuque
Street we gave up property traits and property and
improved our access.I do not want to see it get any
worse because it is a --it is difficult enough to
get in and out with good weather,bad weather,sight
line distance,everything.So I would hope we could
enter into discussion in to how it is going to affect
our property because we are in the valley and we're
willing to talk,we just want to make sure we don't
lose anything.
We have owned the property for --our
organization has owned the property for 90 years,
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since it was a public quarry,so I believe that makes
us the oldest existing owner of the stretch at this
point in time.And I did keep the water out of the
building in '08,so --I have signed in,so I would
appreciate being brought in to the mix with the
design issues.
MS.CLOW:Yes.And just so you know it is
definitely our intention,once we get in to those
final design details with adjacent properties,we
will be talking to you about our plan and what we
will do to improve the property.It is our intention
to look at all these access points and improve what
is there already with this project.
MR.TOBIN:My name is Sean Tobin,I live
at 207 Black Springs Circle.
And I am just curious,this is less
critical to the economic access on Dubuque Street in
and out and the flooding and homes and so forth,but
has consideration been given to the waterway passage
through the bridge?
So primarily there is a --I'm a former
rowing coach and an enthusiast of rowing myself,but
there's two-way traffic and so there are rights of
way heading up and downstream and it becomes
problematic for two reasons:One is that the spread
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of oars in both directions require,in order to not
collide with the bridge abutments,there needs to be
adequate room to be able to navigate.And if there's
three pillars,which is better than the pillars that
are currently in place,depending upon where they're
positioned relative to the shoreline,they could
either --they could in effect inadvertently narrow
the traffic channel if they are away from the
shoreline but not in enough to allow a passage lane
to the outside,as well as allowing for passage to
the inside.
So that said --but I'm sure there is a lot
of expenses that go in to different bridge designs,
but certainly a single pillar is fewer obstacles,two
pillars might allow a central passage as well as two
outer passages.
But I don't know --I know that --and I'm
not speaking on behalf of the University of Iowa or
the Athletic Department or Iowa City Recreation,but
I know all of those parties are out of town or they
have changes in roles so there may not be a
representative here to convey those concerns.
So primarily it is just if there's going to continue
to be that access to the waterway then maintaining
safe traffic channels is important.
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I also was very concerned when the flood of
'93 happened,to the gentleman that is familiar with
the fraternity,it seemed like the way the
orientation of those bridge abutments,it just
pointed the water right smack down at the fraternity.
And it was --it seemed like it resulted in a
tremendous amount of erosion on the eastern shore
while silting in the river on the Hancher side.So
it seems to me that obviously being in line with the
approaching water as it is coming downstream seems to
make sense to not create resistance and then just let
it flow out wherever,but I don't know,some kind of
orientation.
Obviously it would probably be
perpendicular to the orientation of the actual bridge
orientation,but I guess just the effect it has on
receiving the water and pointing the water,that
whole corner is on a very steep bend so the water
wants to go to the outside and erode to the outside
anyway.And so as long as --so I'm just wondering
how the bridge might magnify that dilemma or minimize
that dilemma.And I don't know if that speaks to
backwater,but --
MS.CLOW:As far as your first question
with the rowing team,that has been in our
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discussions the whole time and we've had
communication with the university and we want to make
sure that where we place our piers will not hamper
their operations.Obviously we have a great boat
house right there and we just want to enhance what
they already have there and hopefully give them the
opportunity to have more events.
MR.PEARSON:And in regard to your second
question about the hydraulics,a lot of that analysis
is going to happen over the next year so that the
piers get lined up in the river both to avoid causing
conflicts with the river traffic but also to be as
efficient as possible with the river channel and not
cause any resistance.And we can go in to a lot of
detail,but the net effect is that we don't want to
create any backwater or contribute to destabilization
on either side,so a lot of that analysis will be
conducted over the next few months.
ANNOUNCER:Anybody else?Again,I want to
thank everybody for coming out tonight.We are going
to hang around for a little bit to talk one-on-one.
I know someone might be anxious to see a basketball
game,but we are glad you're here.
Again,please feel free to send in written
comments or e-mail comments to either Website,which
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is www.iowacitygateway.org,or via old fashion U.S.
postal service and that address is on your handouts
and also on your comment form.And we will be taking
those through April 15th,tax day.So thank you all
and good night.
(Whereupon the meeting concluded at 7:02
p.m.,April 4,2013.)