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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2003-02-04 Transcription #2 Page 1 ITEM 2 OUTSTANDING STUDENT CITIZEN AWARD - Lucas Elementary. · Maddie Ford · Hana Ibrik Lehman: Item two are the Outstanding Student Citizenship Awards. So if those folks from Lucas Elementary would come forward please. This is going to be especially fun. I've got identical twin granddaughters that are just about...just about your size. They're pretty cool. This is one of the things that Council does that I think all of us really, really enjoy recognizing outstanding student citizens. I am always amazed when you say why you were nominated and I'm always wishing that I could say the same things that you're saying and have them be true. So what I'd like you to do is give your name and then tell us why you were nominated. Hana lbrik: Hello. I am Hana Ibrik and I feel honored that my classmates and teachers have chosen me to receive this award. To me being a good citizen means that you respect everybody, their actions and their opinions. You try to help your community by taking part in community activities and being of service. One of the things that I've done to be a good citizen is Girl Scouting. From that I've learned many different ways to help out my community. Through library volunteering I've been able to have fun and help out at the same time. I also belong to a group called Sib Ship that is for kids who have sibling with disabilities. There we talk about the ups and downs we have with our special brothers and sisters. For fun I sing with the Iowa City Girls' Choir. I really enjoy it. At school my classmates think that I'm a good problem solver. They come to me for advice when they're in a conflict. I enjoy being with all kinds of people and like them for who they are. Everyday I try to be the best person possible. Thank you. Maddie Ford: Hi. My name is Maddie Ford and I am a 6th-grader at Lucas. I was not very excited about filling out this form for this award because I do not like to be the center of attention. However, I am proud to receive the citizenship award. Here are some of the examples of the things I do to be a good citizen. I do my homework as soon as I get home from school unless I have an activity to do. I turn in my homework and assignments on time. At school I follow directions and don't have to be reminded to do my work. I try to set a good example by following rules and behaving well. I work well with other people. I am very organized. I have several activities outside of school that I have to get to on time. I do gymnastics, piano and clarinet. I am a good Girl Scout and I do patrol at school. Thank you for giving me this award. This represents only a reasonably accnrate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #2 Page 2 Lehman: I have an award...excuse me...I have an award for each of you. I'm going to read it. They both say the thing. For outstanding qualities of leadership within Lucas Elementary as well as the community and for a sense of responsibility and helpfulness to others we recognize these students as Outstanding Student Citizens. Your community is proud of you. Presented by the Iowa City City Council February 2003. And it isn't just the Council that's proud of you. I see some folks back there with cameras who couldn't be more proud. I mean his buttons...ifyou had buttons on your shirt they'd be gone. And especially your grandparents are proud of you I can tell you that. So thank you very much. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #3 Page 3 ITEM 3 MAYOR'S PROCLAMATION a. Salute to Hospitalized Veterans Day- February 14 Lehman: Item three are proclamations. (Reads proclamation). Karr: Here to accept is Gary Strank, Volunteer Program Manager Veteran's Hospital. Strank: If ! might just take a moment I'd like to welcome each of you and thank you for helping us support the veterans at our hospital. We are having an open house this weekend - 8th and 9th starting at 1:00 in our chapel area. We will be giving you valentines and asking you to go through and say hello to some of our veterans that are on the floors. We will continue that throughout the week until the 14th the culmination of Veteran's Day and just show them our love. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you, Gary. I will be there Sunday at 1:00 and certainly the rest of the Council is invited as well. b. Sertoma's Freedom Week- February 16-22 Lehman: (Reads proclamation). Karr: Here to accept is President Larry McConahay. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #4 Page 4 ITEM 4 CONSIDER ADOPTION OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED OR AMENDED. Lehman: Item four is consideration of the consent calendar as presented or amended. Champion: Move adoption. O'Dormell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Champion, seconded by O'DonnelI. Discussion? Kanner: I'd like to remove an item of resolutions number e(2) regarding restrictions for land use for north airport development subdivision. Lehman: Okay. Kanner: And then I had some other comments on other items. Lehman: Go ahead. Karmer: We had in item number b(4) planning and zoning in the minutes from 12/19 a notation that the City has been denied access a couple times from Southgate for seeing if there are any prairie remnants. They were ready to send people in there and they're denying it. And I was wondering if there was any plan for us to what we are going to do about it - any thought on that? Are we going to...when it comes to us for an eventually plat is there any way to deal with this? I don't know if Karin is in the audience or anyone on the CounciI... Lehman: My suspicion is it's private property and they don't want us on their property they don't have to let us. Kanner: Right and we can possibly deny a plant plat or subdivision because we don't know if there is sensitive areas in there. I don't know what's the story on this. What rights do we have Eleanor? Dilkes: Well I think if the Council wants a more detailed report we can give you that, but right now the issue of prairie remnants if it's not a prairie remnant identified on the map and there is no such prairie remnant identified on that property then we don't have regulatory authority under the sensitive areas ordinance. Kanner: And...so it's a circular thing and ~ve don't know because we can't go on. I mean do we have a right to say we're not going to give you a plat eventually. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #4 Page 5 Dilkes: No. Kanner: No? Okay. Franklin: This property will be subject to a rezoning as well as a plat. Just so everybody knows that. Kanner: A rezoning for sensitive areas? Franklin: No, a rezoning because it's not now zoned for development. So one of the...the process that you will be going through probably within the next two or three months is to look at it for rezoning and for planned development. We have a concept plan that we have reviewed, but we don't have a formal application yet. But there will be two things that will come before the Council - the rezoning of the property for development, probably a planned development, as well as a plat. Kanner: So at that time we have an opportunity to work with them perhaps on this issue... Franklin: Under, under the rezoning process you have more discretion than you have with a plat. So you can make a judgment about the development potential of this land when you consider the zoning of it. Kanner: Okay. So that's something we can keep in mind at that time when it comes before us. Lehman: Other discussion? Kanner: There is going to be a public hearing...a few public hearings the one that did get a lot of publicity is the decrease in the water rate proposal which I don't think there are going to be too many people opposing that. So that's a proposed 5% decrease which is good news coming up and that's a public hearing on the 18th. And also wanted to point out we had some correspondence from Julie Spears. This is number f(4)...I believe it was f(4). She gave us some more information on the Patriot Act. I thought some very well presented material talking about how the Bill of Rights will possibly be infringed by some of these aspects of the Patriot Act. And again a lot of those, I think, hit home locally. So I'd recommend that Council take a 10ok at that and als0 the public. That's in the correspondence of our packet. Then I also ~vanted to ask the Council about correspondence number 6 from Geoffrey McLennan a doctor at UI. He said he talked with you Emie about a study that they're going to begin looking at screening for lung cancer for those who smoke or have stopped smoking. And was looking at putting up signs to inform people about the study and I was This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #4 Page 6 wondering if~ve can cooperate with that or what the status of that is. Do you know Emie? Lehman: I suggested that he write a letter to the Council to see if there was interest on the part of the Council. I think...I have no problem with us participating. I think it's a good idea. And I would be glad for us to respond to him and indicate our willingness to participate. Karmer: Yeah. See what that entails. I think it's a worthwhile study. It sounds pretty interesting. And then number 9 from the Windsor Ridge Homeowners Association along with Gary Watts there was some concern about traffic on Arlington and I was wondering if we could send that to Jeff. I'm sure Jeff has probably already looked at it to see if it warrants a traffic count to see if it meets our criteria for a traffic calming device. Atkins: I asked Jeff to prepare a response. It's being prepared now. Lehman: It's probably already there. Atkins: I don't...the response hasn't gone out, but we have started to deal with it. Lehman: Right. Atkins: We'll copy (can't hear). Kanner: Okay. And then the Jaycees wrote us a letter formally. Are we responding to that in their request for the fireworks? They're asking for $12,000 1 believe. Lehman: My suspicion we'll respond to that at the same time we respond to the other requests that we talked about the other night which will be...I don't know ~vhat the date for that is. But we have to respond to all of the requests. It's obviously our call whether or not we want to respond to that one. Kanner: Although I thought we considered treating it a little bit differently as if it were a separate item not putting it in the same pot. And I think we should as Mike and others have pointed out it's a long time tradition. Maybe we need to look at a different way of doing it - taking more of the responsibility. They're having trouble getting a chairperson this year it appears. And maybe this should be like Irvin Weber Day that we should take a lead in planning this. This is a big City event that a lot of people enjoy. And maybe we shouldn't put everything on the Jaycees to be responsible every year. So maybe it needs a separate discussion item. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #4 Page 7 Champion: I thought we were going to keep it separate from our other contributions. Lehman: I'm sure we probably can. Champion: Because they didn't apply on time and we felt that it was unfair to the other organizations to consider the same pocket so to speak. Kanner: I think it would be worthwhile to have a work session on the 4th Of July. Atkins: Not on the 4th of July. Lehman: I don't think there will be many people working that day. Lehman: Not on the 4th o£July, about the 4th of July. Champion: Good idea. Kanner: Are there a couple other people that want to do that? Lehman: I don't care whether we handle that as a work session item or whether we handle it the same time that we handle the other requests. Atkins: Well for certain you'll have the other requests and if you recall you asked us to publicize the budget that added $3,000 to that account. Lehman: Right. Atkins: Now you have full flexibility to decide, you know, within that budgeted number on who's going to get what share of those dollars. I'm assuming that you'll go through the public hearing on the 18th, conclude that discussion, if anybody comes and could speak to that issue at that time then on a subsequent budget work session. Lehman: Put it on a work session for some time after the budget stuff. Atkins: Yeah. I do believe, you know, that it's a long standing tradition that we have to... Champion: Yeah I think we'd be in big trouble if we didn't have fireworks. Atkins: Well, but I think Steve points out there's a lot more issues than merely financing now. Lehman: Other discussion? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #4 Page 8 Vanderhoef: Just one other. We're setting public hearing tonight for the FY04 budget and that means that the budget is now published for people to look at at the library and at City Hall. We'll be having that public hearing two weeks from tonight on the 18th and we'll be voting on the budget on March 11th. Lehman: Okay. Pfab: I believe if I'm not mistaken it's also on the Intemet. Is that correct? On the web page. Vanderhoefi Thank you. Pfab: (Can't hear) the budget. Vanderhoef: You're right. Lehman: Okay roll call on the consent calendar with the one item removed which was e(2). Motion carries. Champion: Move the passage o£e(2). Lehman: We have a motion. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Seconded by Vanderhoef. Discussion? Kanner: I just want to clarify - Eleanor this is for property that is sold is it not...these restrictions not for rental property - that was my reading of it? Dilkes: No, they'll run with the property and so they would apply to lease property as well. Kam~er: It runs with... Lehman: The north airport commercial. Kanner: ...any of'the rental or the... Vanderhoef: ...leased. Kanner: Okay. Dilkes: I mean I think they're being developed in this fashion as opposed to making them lease restrictions in anticipation of sale. But if we This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #4 Page 9 weren't going to sale the property and we're going to lease it you would see some of... many of the same restrictions in the lease. Kanner: Same kind of thing. Lehman: Other discussion. Kanner: My vote for this...I have some reluctance because the emphasis is on sale and I think we shouldn't be selling this property. If we do sale public property or get rid of it it should not be going to subsidize the airport. Once it's sold it's gone. I think if you lease you have more control of it. Lehman: That's a different issue. This just involves the restrictions that govern the development on that land. Karmer: But again we are doing it in this fashion to a large extent because it is going to be sold as opposed to... Lehman: We'd have to do it whether we lease it or sale it. These restrictions go with the property. Kanner: I'm going to go with it and vote for it because of that. But still there is that reluctance about selling it and I'I1 vote when that comes to sale. Lehman: We are having that meeting Monday night at 6:30 with the Airport Commission so obviously if you have some concerns there that's a good place...that's a really good place to bring that up. Other discussion? Role call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #5 Page 10 ITEM 5 PUBLIC DISCUSSION Lehman: Item 5 is public discussion. This is the time reserved on the agenda for the public to address Council on items that do not otherwise appear on the agenda. If you wish to address the Council please sign in, give your name, address and limit your comments to five minutes or less. Dorothy Paul: I'm Dorothy Paul and I live at 608 Larch Lane. I would like to read to you a prepared statement prior to submitting to the Council a resolution against the war in Iraq on February 18th when you meet again. The statement reads: (reads statement). There will be a meeting Thursday on February 6th to which the public is invited if they want to work with us on the draft resolution which we now have available and the meeting will be 6:00 p.m. in the Iowa City Public Library in Room C. Anyone desiring more information can call the local chapter of the Physicians for Social Responsibility and that telephone number is 337-7290. I also have an e-mail address and that is ipi~ui-edu. And coming before you this evening it brings back many important memories and at that time Mary Neuhauser was the Mayor of Iowa City and at that time the Iowa City Council passed...made Iowa City a nuclear free zone. Thank you very much. Lehman: Thank you. Kanner: Marian what's the procedure for putting a resolution on the agenda? Karr: According to your procedure I believe you established three...three Council Members. Kanner: Thanks. Karr: Dorothy did you want to submit any correspondence? Okay can we have a motion to accept correspondence? O'Donnell: So moved. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Vanderhoef to accept correspondence. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Nick Herbold: Hi. My name is Nick Herbold and I live at 319 East Court Street. I'm also a member of Stepping Up and I'm here tonight to give you what's in effect - kind ora minority report from Stepping Up. I think changing the bar entry age to 21 is bad. I think this would move, you know, inevitably move the parties from downtown into the neighborhoods which would be bad for the people living in the This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #5 Page 11 neighborhoods for various reasons and I think it would provide an unsafe environment for the people at the parties. I encourage the Council to encourage the bars to self-regulate and I hope that there will be some selective benefits that you can give them in the future to encourage them to self-regulate. Thank you. Lehman: Thank you, Nick. Sarah Swisher: Hi. I'm Sarah Swisher and I'm Co-Chair of the Yes for Kids committee in support of the bond referendum. I live at 917 Bowery Street. I want to thank you very much for all of your support - the whole Council in that last several months as we've been working on this campaign and as you all know our election day is coming up on Tuesdaythe 11th. Just here very briefly tonight to along with thanking you for support on behalf of the committee to invite you to a couple of events that we have this weekend. Two community rallies - one at City High School at 10:00 on Saturday morning. We're going to rally for the bond referendum and then move out into the community to distribute literature in the neighborhoods about appropriate voting places and some information on the bonds. Similar event Sunday at West High School - both of these are in the cafeterias in those buildings another rally at 1:00 p.m. with the same literature activity afterwards. I really hope that you can all attend and we'd certainly offer you the opportunity to speak out on behalf of the referendum. And again thanks for everything. Lehman: Thank you. Good luck. Swisher: Thank you. Matt Blizek: Hi. My name is Matt Blizek. I live at 628 North Linn Street. I'd like to talk to you today about several concerns that myself and several other students have about a proposed ordinance that would encourage landlords to begin eviction proceeding against tenants that are found guilty of numerous crimes I guess was submitted in the draft that was submitted to you. And I first read about this proposal in a newspaper article in the Gazette and I didn't actually believe that I was hearing something like this at first. It wasn't until...I tried to come down to City Hall to find some sort of draft that was given out, but there was none available at the time I guess for the public. So I went on-line and got the text from your work session of January 6th and I must say I'm really surprised I guess the City Council is considering actions such as these. You must try to realize how this looks and is going to look to the student body when it gets out. So I'll tell you right now the students have not really gotten wind of this yet, but they will and when they will...the last time when the other ill-fated proposals from our neighborhood task forces was put before us banning couches off front This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #5 Page 12 porches, keg registrations and registering the amount of people you can over at your place this by far surpasses all of those in its inappropriateness and callousness of the Council to even consider something like this. And I have several questions I guess I'd like to get some feedback on. First has there been any public hearing set for this ordinance as of yet or is that still... ? Champion: No. Because we don't really have the ordinance completed yet. Blizek: Okay. From...and then another question I have is I know that Doug Boothroy and some other people have been meeting with landlords throughout the City to revise the text of it and get feedback from them. Has there been any efforts, I guess, to reach out to different tenants in the City to get some feedback from them on this proposal and will there be? Lehman: ! can't tell you that for sure. I know it's going to be coming back to us I would assume in the next...the 18th. I would suggest that you be here at that meeting. Champion: There are tenants on the task force. Dilkes: There were tenant representatives on the neighborhood task force that Blizek: There was one student tenant on the neighborhood task force yes and I think that by far and away that was where most of it was targeted at is the young people and the young students of Iowa City. Kanner: Steve what...are there any "tenants" on the new task force that you put together? Atkins: That's really not a task force - the committee? Yes there are. I'm almost positive there are. Yeah. I don't recall their names. Sorry Steve. Dilkes: But that committee is not recommending...is not advising you as the policy on this. Lehman: I think you should come to that meeting. Blizek: Well that I had planned on. We have unfortunately a student assembly on that same night so I will be unable to, but I'll get to that later on. I would like to just...I'11 use my own neighborhood as an example. When I moved into this neighborhood - North Linn - the corner of Linn and Ronalds on the north side of town there within a week of moving in I received a letter from the local neighborhood association inviting all the new tenants to basically come to a meeting. You went This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #5 Page 13 there, they served, you know, food, everyone met each other. They said look...because it's a very mixed neighborhood. There's a lot of students and older people that live in that neighborhood. And they said well this is kind of how we feel. We like to keep the noise level down in our community. We don't like loud parties and all this going on. And it works relatively well. There's not that many loud parties in our neighborhood. I mean it's a fairly quiet neighborhood and all that. Now what the City Council the message you're sending with us is we don't ~vant to enter into a dialogue with tenants and students and people who like to go out and have a good time on the weekend and might annoy some of the neighbors. We're not interested and sitting down with them and working out our differences. We just want to kick them out. And that is the message that literally that you're sending with this. And... Lehman: That's why you need to come to the meeting because that's not the message at all. And 99.999% of the students will have no effect on it whatsoever. Blizek: Is it...did I read this right that students...that anyone with a public intox...two public intoxications, possession of alcohol under ages, noise disturbances you will try to put pressure on the landlords to evict them. Is that the purpose of the ordinance? Lehman: I don't know what's going to come back to us, but I know what is came to us the first time is being redone. That's why I think it's important that you be here on the 18th. Blizek: Okay. Well there are...if I could address just some problems that I... Lehman: You've got about one more minute and then your time is up. Blizek: Okay then I'll try to talk fast. Lehman: Okay. Blizek: The fact that the City Council thinks they can evict certain citizens out of their homes where they live just because some other citizens are annoyed ! think is very, very inappropriate for the Council to even consider all that. And by doing this you're basically demanding that the landlords invade in their tenants' lives and police their behavior. Otherwise you're going to put pressure on them to evict them. I think all of this is very, very inappropriate and I hope that you get some feedback from the students and work more cooperative in this instead of just forcing their hand and putting this sort of image...this sort of message out to the student body and the Iowa City community in general. Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #5 Page 14 Lehman: Thank you Matt. Kanner: I think one thing we can do is ask Doug to give a call to the student body representatives to invite them to come to his office to talk about that. Champion: I think we should wait and see what we're going to... Kanner: I mean Emie by the time we want to get them involved I think before the final resolution is written. So it's good that they come on the day that we talk about it, but I think a lot of the action is happening before. And it's being written now. Lehman: I have no problem with Doug contacting... Atkins: I want to...just so we all understand each other Council created a task force of a variety of folks. They had 25 recommendations. We're in the process of pursuing a number of those recommendations one of which was this ordinance that Matt finds objectionable and I think a number of other folks have. We came to the Council...Doug did because he instructed to draft an ordinance. You did not find it acceptable, sent him back. He's going through some amendments right now. But we're still following what the task force recommended to you and until you sort of tell us to do otherwise I think well I don't want to mislead Matt and Nick that those are the issues that are going to be up in front of you. And you'll have to decide them one at a time. Pfab: I'd like to make a comment. I think you're coming here is very beneficial both to you and to us. This...we're working on something and we have no interest in starting the Gestapo here - that's not our interest. Our interest is to have you enjoy being here and us enjoying you. So...I mean...but...we were struggling with this. This is a work in progress. I think now is the time to speak up and I think Doug Boothroy might be a person to talk to. That was a good...but I appreciate your stepping in and getting into the fray. Atkins: Ernie. Lehman: Yes? Atkins: I will see that when the final draft at the time it comes to the Council I'I1 mail a copy to both of you. I'll take care of that. Lehman: Okay. Very good. Any other public discussion? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #6c Page 15 ITEM 6c PLANNING AND ZONING MATTERS c. Public hearing on an ordinance amending the Planned Development Housing Overlay (OPDH-5) Plan for the Peninsula Neighborhood by Amending the Peninsula Neighborhood Code. (REZ02-00024/SUB02-00027) Lehman: (Reads item). Public hearing is open. Franklin: It was an issue that came up last night about backyards. Correct? Vanderhoef: The wording. Franklin: We have a new definition which what I would suggest is that you just interject it with a motion next time. Lehman: Okay. Franklin: Excuse me. All unveiled portions of the lot except the front yard. Champion: Oh, good. Franklin: How's that for simple. Champion: Very good. Lehman: Includes the side yard which is different. Franklin: Yes. Lehman: Okay. Good. Champion: That's very clear. Lehman: That's very clear. Franklin: Thank you. Lehman: Even for us that's clear. Any other discussion? Champion: Do we have to define the front yard? O'DonnelI: We'll get into that later. Lehman: Public hearing is closed. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #7b Page 16 ITEM 7b PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, FORM OF CONTRACT, AND ESTIMATE OF COST FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THE SCOTT BOULEVARD LANDSCAPE - FIRST AVENUE TO ROCHESTER AVENUE PROJECT, ESTABLISHING AMOUNT OF BID SECURITY TO ACCOMPANY EACH BID, DIRECTING CITY CLERK TO PUBLISH ADVERTISEMENT FOR BIDS, AND FIXING TIME AND PLACE FOR RECEIPT OF BIDS. b. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION APPROVING Lehman: (Reads item). Estimated construction costs is $68,260. Do we have a motion? Champion: Move the resolution. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Champion, seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? Pfab: I have a question. Are there any unusual items in this work? Lehman: Landscaping? Pfab: Is there anything unusual? Lehman: No it's landscaping along the street. Pfab: Right just a regular... ? O'Donnell: Trees, grass. Knocke: Just a regular landscaping plan that we use on our normal streets. Pfab: Okay. I wasn't aware there was. Maybe I was missing something. Lehman: Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #8a Page 17 ITEM 8a CONVEYANCE OF THE WEST ONE-HALF OF A TWENTY FOOT WIDE BY SIXTY FEET LONG VACATED PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOCATED BETWEEN 405 SOUTH SUMMIT STREET AND 338 SOUTH GOVERNOR STREET TO PHYLLIS TUCKER. a. PIJBLIC HEARING Lehman: (Reads item). Public hearing is open. Phyllis Tucker: Hi. I'm Phyllis Tucker. I...it was my understanding in talking with the folks that i'm working ~vith that this was asked to be deferred until March. Are you aware of that? Dilkes: Yeah. My understanding is that item 9 which is the other half of the alley be proposed for conveyance to Sue Travis and Andrew Robertson. The earlier indication from the Council is the offers being made were not acceptable and we've been informed by Mark Hamer the attorney in that case that they will be securing an appraisal. So I didn't know what your intention was. Tucker: Actually Mark Hamer is my attorney. Dilkes: Mark Hamer is your attorney. Oh, okay. Tucker: And Sue and I are working together and we've invited Sue to join us with the appraisal and all of that. Dilkes: Okay so then. Tucker: So it's reversed, but that's fine. Lehman: This is to the 18th? Dilkes: What we would ask then is that the public hearings be continued until March 1 lth. Lehman: Right. March 11th. Dilkes: And that the items be deferred until March 11th. Tucker: Right. Pfab: Okay. Tucker: I'm just trying to get it all figured out. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #8a Page 18 Pfab: Thank you. Do you need a motion for that? Vanderhoef: Move to defer to... Lehman: We need a motion to continue the public hearing to March I 1th which we have from Mrs. Vanderhoef. O'Dormell: Second. Lehman: Seconded by O'Donnell. All in favor? Opposed? (Motion carried). Then we need a motion to defer action until March 11 th. Pfab: So moved. Lehman: Moved by Pfab. Champion: Second. Lehman: Seconded by Champion. All in favor? Opposed? Excuse me. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #9 Page 19 ITEM 9 CONVEYANCE OF TItE EAST ONE-HALF OF A TWENTY FOOT WIDE BY SIXTY FEET LONG VACATED PORTION OF THE ALLEY LOCATED BETWEEN 405 SOUTH SUMMIT STREET AND 338 SOUTH GOVERNOR STREEY TO SUE M. TRAVIS AND ANDREW D. ROBERTSON. a. PUBLIC HEARING b. CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING Lehman: (Reads item) Do we have a motion to Champion: Move to defer Lehman: Wait a minute. Dilkes: Need to open the public hearing. Lehman: Just need a motion to defer action to March 11. Dilkes: But you need to open the public hearing. Lehman: We do. Public hearing is open. Do we have a motion to defer to the 11 th? Champion: I move to defer or continue the public hearing. O'Donnell: I would love to second that. Lehman: We have a motion by Champion, seconded by O'Donnell, to continue the public hearing until March 11. Champion: And to defer until March 11. Lehman: I think it takes two motions. Dilkes: You can put them together. Lehman: They're together. We going to defer and delay and whatever else we do routinely. All those in favor. Kanner: Wait a second Ernie. Lehman: Yes. Wilburn: That was item 9 we just continued the public hearing and Kanner: Okay, I This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #9 Page 20 Vanderhoef: Two property owners. Lehman: Is that a yes vote? Kanner: Yes. Lehman: Motion carries. I would then like to go back to item f and ask for someone to make a motion to defer to the 11th. Kanner: So moved. Lehman: Moved by Karmer. O'Donnell: Seconded. Lehman: Seconded by O'DonnelI to defer item fto the 11th of March. All those in favor. Opposed? Motion carries. Then item g. Same motion. O'Donnell: So moved. Pfab: Second Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by ..... Kanner: No, no. Karr: G goes after 10. Lehman: I'm sorry. O'Donnell: G is after 10. Lehman: Where's item 107 O'Donnell: Right here, Ernie. Lehman: Yes. Kan': After 9. Dilkes: That's the Mercy vacation. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page 21 ITEM 10 CONVEYANCE OF THE PLATTED ALLEY IN BLOCK 27, ORIGINAL TOWN, IOWA CITY, IOWA, TO MERCY HOSPITAL 4. a. Public Hearing Lehman: (Reads item). Public hearing is open. Public hearing is... Karr: Motion to accept correspondence. Vanderhoef: So moved. O'Donnell: So moved. Lehman: We have a motion and a second to accept correspondence. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries. Public hearing is closed. Do we have a motion? b. Consider a resolution authorizing O'Donnell: So moved. Lehman: Moved by O'Dormell. Champion: Do you have to change the numbering or is it not important? Lehman: Well we have to get the motion on the floor first. O'Donnell: Yeah. Lehman: We have a motion. Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: And a second. Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Vanderhoef. Discussion? Vanderhoefi I move to amend the dollar amount for the purchase of the property from $1 to $15,000. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: We have a motion by Vanderhoef or an amendment by Vanderhoef and seconded by O'Donnell to change the amount of compensation from $1 to $15,000. Discussion on the amendment? Kanner: Yes. Eleanor we've had a memo saying probably worth at least $12,000. Was there discussion about what would be an ideal price that we might get for it beyond $12,0007 This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page 22 Dilkes: No. Let me make it clear what Staff is willing to say. What that letter to Mercy said is that Staff would not support a disposition less than $12,000 without an appraisal and we based that on the assessed value an appraisal that was the basis for an offer in connection with this Lafayette property and the discount that was made in that appraisal for the encumbrances that were placed on the property. And that's all said forth in the letter. But I can't tell you what an appraiser would value that property at. I don't have that expertise. I'm just saying based on what we know we would not be willing to support an offer less than $12,000 and at that point we got an offer from Mercy for $15,000. So that's where it stands. Pfab: Can I make a comment? Lehman: Certainly. Pfab: I think this brings up a good point. First of all I'm glad to see this come with an offer and again I voted no for the first two readings of this and that was my reason for doing so because (End of Side 1, Tape 03-16, Beginning of Side 2) Pfab: If a person comes to purchase a property for the citizens of Iowa City they ought to come with something in hand rather than wait until the last minute and say well this is what we're going to offer. I...there's a gentleman sitting in the audience here and I really wish to take this opportunity to thank him for starting this - Attorney Bob Downer did this with a piece of property do~vn by the river and the railroad tracks and that made that process work a lot better. Now other people may have done it, but this was recently. And when this other came up t~vice with just a standstill it's rather irritating if you represent the rest of the citizens in Iowa City not to see that willingness to come forth. I don't know where $I5,000 is one this. It's...I'm not totally uncomfortable. I don't know...I'd be a lot more comfortable if there was an appraisal with it. Champion: But they're not going to go to the expense of getting an appraisal unless they know we're willing to vacate it or whatever we cai1 it. So it's a two-edged sword. Pfab: I don't think so. Champion: But you can always deny it, you can always deny it. Pfab: No, I'm not interested in denying it. I'm interested in...I don't want... I'm making a statement here I guess in support of two ways of...contrasting the two ways to do this when you come to the City This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page23 Council to buy land that's owned by everyone. Come forth ~vith an offer if you're serious about it and do it right up front. Now we're sitting on it because we don't have an appraisal. Is it right? I don't Lehman: Irvin we don't accept any offer. Pfab: But they want to move on and so. Champion: We've been through this a lot. O'Donnell: Yeah. Nothing final until the third reading. Pfab: And this is the third reading. O'Donnell: That's right. And the offer is in hand. Staffhas recommended approval and I think it's a wonderful deal for Iowa City. Lehman: This is a resolution of conveyance. The appropriate time to discuss the selling price is when we have the public hearing on the conveyance which is tonight. This is the routine that we use to set the price. The price has come to us tonight. At the appropriate time at the public hearing where the price is determined. There's no point in going through a vacation process unless...there's no point in making an offer unless we're going to do the vacation. They've gone through two readings. We're now at the point where we have an offer. We can vote to convey the property, go back and have the third reading of the conveyance and it's all over with. Pfab: Right. Lehman: Now we did have a recommendation from our Staffthat $1 was not acceptable. P fab: Right. Lehman: The communication went from our Staff to Mercy Hospital that no offer less than $12,000 would be considered and based on other transactions that we've had within the City was I believe the basis for that letter. We now have an offer of $15,000. The question is the amendment as we have heard it is to change that price to $15,000. Now is there more discussion on the amendment? Champion: No. Dilkes: Can I just say... Lehman: Please. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page 24 Dilkes: I just want to say a couple things. Number one the City Council's policy about dispositions does not require an appraisal. That may be something that you want to take a look at. But as it stands right now an appraisal is not required. And two Staff has discussed the process and we had some discussion about whether we would recommend to you that we start requiring offers to come in with the application with the vacation. That did not make sense to us because it seems like it's appropriate to give some read to the applicant on the vacation before they go to the expense of getting an appraisal if that's what they're going to do. So the compromise that we arrived at is that we will send...that we're going to do now is we're going to send the vacation through P & Z. At that point the applicant will have an indication that P & Z is supporting it or not supporting it as the case may be. We will hold...we will not send the vacation on to Council until we have an offer from the applicant. Champion: We're not demanding that. Council hasn't asked you to do that. Dilkes: Well that's the process that we've come up with in trying to deal with the process issues that we have dealt with. And, you know, if you want to discuss that that's fine to. Pfab: I believe there might be another possibility and I'm not saying that it's the right or the wrong possibility. Basically we have a new resolution here...the difference between $1,000 and $15,000... Champion: $1. Lehman: $1. Pfab: I mean $1 and $15,000 is really a new resolution. O'Donnell: Irvin we don't. We've passed it twice. The third time we've established cost. Champion: We've been through this. Pfab: $l. Champion: We didn't convey. We passed vacation. Pfab: I think this is a chance for the public... Champion: Irvin we discuss this every time we do this. Let's vote please. I call the vote. Lehman: Well you want to finish Irvin? This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page 25 Pfab: Well I think...you know I'm not for or against the number but I have no basis on what this number should be. Lehman: I don't either. Steven? Kanner: Are you done? I think in my mind it's more logical to go the route that the City Attorney's office is talking about. I think that makes sense. I think we do also need to talk about appraisals. We can maybe say if there's an assessed value at a certain level we'll ask for an appraisal. And I am kind ofblind on this. I think we're all kind of blind on this $15,000. We have a sense that it's a good offer because it's above the $12,000 assessed, but we really don't know what the appraisers are saying. And I think it would be good. Dilkes: Believe me the appraisers will not all say the same thing. Karmer: They certainly won't. Right. Dilkes: I mean Tom Gelman has a point that it's more an art than a science. Kanner: We should remember that there's other items where I've heard the opposite of that when I question...when we question the appraisal. O'Donnell: Who he's representing? Kanner: Also as an aside, Irvin, I think you did vote for one of the vacations on that. Pfab: No, I didn't. I voted two times no. O'Donnell: Let's try to vote on this one. Karmer: But in any case... Wilburn: A point of order Connie called the question I think the Mayor needs to... Dilkes: There's no second. Champion: Them was no second. O'Donnell: Would you like to do it again? Champion: I call the question. O'Donnell: I second it. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page 26 Lehman: We have a motion and a second to call the question. Is that a debatable question? Champion: No. Lehman: All in favor of calling the question signify by raising your right hand. One, two, three, four, five. Dilkes: Five passes. Lehman: We have...and all opposed raise your right hand. The vote is 5 to 2, Kanner and Pfab voting in the negative. Now all in favor of the amendment which changes the purchase price from $1 to $15,000 indicate by raising your right hand please. Pfab: Restate... Karr: You've called the question. Lehman: There's no more debate on this. Pfab: No, no, no. I'm just asking restate what you said. Lehman: The amendment...we're voting on the amendment which raises the... Pfab: Okay. Alright. I was distracted and I wanted to be sure I heard what you said. Lehman: Alright. All in favor of the amendment indicate by raising your right hand please. We have six. You're not voting? Kanner: Aye. Lehman: Okay ~ve have seven. Now is there any discussion on the motion as amended. We can't do that either. All in...we need a roll call. P£ab: So we are voting what no,v? Lehman: We are voting on... Champion: On the conveyance. Lehman: ...on the conveyance for $15,000. The amendment was passed. Dilkes: Okay. It is debatable. I hate to say that, but... Lehman: I'd like to thank you for that Eleanor, but I'm not going to. Dilkes: Sorry. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #10 Page 27 Lehman: Roll call. (Motion carries). Thank you folks. Champion: Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #6g Page 28 ITEM 6g CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE VACATING THE EAST-TO-WEST ALLEY IN BLOCK 27 OF TItE ORIGINAL TOWN PLAT, LOCATED BETWEEN MARKET AND BLOOMINGTON STREET WEST OF DODGE STREET. (VAC02-00007) (Pass and Adopt) Lehman: Now going back to item g, which we deferred. (Read item) O'Donnell: Move adoption. Champion: Second. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell, seconded by Champion. Discussion? Roll Call. Amazing that such unanimity takes so long. Champion: I just want to ask Eleanor something. Lehman: Please do. Champion: Do we really want to put another burden on Planning and Zoning. Seems to me they have heavy agendas if we're going to ask them. Dilkes: Goes through P&Z anyway. Lehman: Goes through P&Z anyway. Champion: Oh, okay. Dilkes: So that seemed logical to us to let it go through P&Z, get their read on the vacation, and its not typical that you all deny vacation when they recommend... Champion: Right. Lehman: Almost did earlier. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #12 Page 29 ITEM 12 CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 1, "ADMINISTRATION," CHAPTER 5, "MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL," SECTION 3, "COMPENSATION" TO ALLOW CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CITY'S GROUP HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE. (FIRST CONSIDERATION) Lehman: (Reads item). Vanderhoef: Move first consideration. Wilburn: Second. Lehman: Moved by Vanderhoef, seconded by Wilburn. Discussion? Kanner: I'm going to vote yes, but again I think the real discussion that we have to have in the near future is paying...the City paying for part of the cost for future City Council members for the health care to make the position more accessible to a wider array of people in the community. Lehman: Other discussion? Roll call. Pfab: No. I want to make sure I keep this open for discussion. I mean that's alright. The first reading is no. Lehman: The motion carries, 6 to 1 and Irvin you will have the opportunity to discuss that each of the next meetings whether or not you vote yes or Pfab: Well I agree, but at the same time it was brought to my attention that maybe I changed the vote. I think it's going to be fine, but I just wanted to be sure that I left that option open. So at this point it's no. Lehman: You know what Irvin we've all kept option open because we can all vote no next time too. Pfab: It's a motion I believe that needs work. Lehman: Thank you Irvin. Pfab: That's all. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #13 Page 30 ITEM 13 CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 4, ENTITLED "ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES," CHAPTER 5, "PROHIBITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS," TO AMEND THE PROHIBITION ON SERVING TWO (2) SERVINGS OF ANY ALCOHOLIC LIQUOR, WINE, OR BEER AT ANY ONE TIME TO ANY ONE PERSON TO SERVING TWO (2) "CONTAINERS" OF ANY ALCOHOLIC LIQUOR, WINE, OR BEER AT ANY ONE TIME TO ANY ONE PERSON AND TO DELETE THE EXCEPTION FOR "PRIVATE EVENTS." (PASS AND ADOPT) Lehman: (Reads item). Vanderhoef: Move to adopt. Pfab: Second. Lehman: Moved by Vanderhoef, seconded by Pfab. Discussion? Champion: We might not need this ordinance if we did something else. Lehman: Right. We don't know if we're going to do something else yet. Any other discussion? Roll call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #14 Page 31 ITEM 14 CONSIDER A RESOLUTION AMENDING THE BUDGETED POSITIONS IN THE ACCOUNTING DIVISION OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND THE AFSCME PAY PLAN BY DELETING THE POSITION OF SENIOR PAYROLL CLERK AND ADDING THE POSITION OF ACCOUNTANT. Lehman: (Reads item). Champion: Move the resolution. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Champion, seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? P£ab: I would like just if Kevin could just speak to that for us and for the public. O'Malley: Yes Irvin. This is a position that because of the workload of Gasy 14 the additional valuation of ail City properties and the introduction of some new software which ~vill relieve some of the clerical aspects of that position. We feel that it's warranted to have that position raised to an accountant. Pfab: I thank you. Kanner: Will this...will there be a new person hired and someone let go? O'Malley: Yes. This position currently is vacant. Kanner: The position has been vacant. O'Malley: Right. Kanner: Okay. Lehman: Thank you. Roi1 call. Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #16 Page 32 ITEM 16 CONSIDER A MOTION TO APPROVE A TENTATIVE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE IOWA CITY ASSOCIATION OF PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS, IAFF, AFL-CIO, LOCAL 610, AND THE CITY OF IOWA CITY. Lehman: (Reads item). Champion: Move the resolution. O'Donnell: Second. Lehman: Moved by Champion, seconded by O'Donnell. Discussion? I suppose it would be appropriate to indicate that this agreement provides for a 2.75% wage increase and it does also provide for the employees to contribute an additional $20 per month to their health insurance premium. Pfab: I have a question. It's a simple question and I think I know...I'm not sure I know the answer on it. Is...there's a $200...you're moving the position with considerable more responsibility you're increasing that pay by $200. Helling: We're increasing the differential between their pay and the pay they supervise. In effect the Lieutenants and Captains get an additional $200 a year increase above and beyond the 2.75%. Pfab: Now is that...that's going to be built into the system from now on. Helling: Yes. Pfab: Okay because I heard something about one year and that didn't make any sense. Lehman: One year contract. Champion: It's a one year contract. Lehman: We renegotiate contracts. Pfab: Oh, okay I see. But the idea is that it will be a permanent. Helling: That increase differential remains in the future. Pfab: Okay. That was my question. Helling: Unless it's negotiated away for something. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #16 Page 33 Pfab: Okay. I think it's a good idea. Lehman: Roll call. Oh, all in favor I'm sorry. Opposed? Motion carries. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page 34 ITEM 19 CITY COUNCIL INFORMATION. Lehman: Council time. Irvin? Pfab: One item. The Lieutenant Governor is going to be at the Conner...Evert Connor center tomorrow at 10:00 to make some announcement. I just...so the public and we know it. Lehman: It's regarding housing opportunities for disabled. Pfab: Oh, it is. Lehman: Right and 10:00. Pfab: And it will be televised. Lehman: Okay. Connie? Champion: I just want to remind people that you can vote for the school bond referendum at Hy-Vee this weekend - all Hy-Vees in town, the library, Saturday and Sunday and at the auditor's office. And if you have questions about places to vote there is a web site for the auditor. And encourage everyone to vote yes. Lehman: Mike? O'Donnell: Just congratulations to Connie the new Chair of the Johnson County Council of Governments. And Ernie we appreciated your presence at your first meeting. And I'm not sure you added a lot, but we enjoyed your presence. Lehman: Thank you Mike. Dee? Vanderhoefi Just a couple of things. Since it came up at budget meeting recently that we're looking at the City Council budget specifically that line item and I just am curious if the Council still wishes representation at the State and National level. As you are aware I presently serve and have served on various committees both at State and National level. So I'd just like this question answered. And also if you'd like any more information on my activities I'd be happy to bring those to the work session we're going to do. Champion: No, I thank you for going Dee. O'Dormell: Yes. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page 35 Champion: We need...we need representation and you're willing to do it and you do a great job. Don't feel bad about that. O'Donnell: That's absolutely correct. Champion: You do a great job. We just don't think that four people need to go somewhere. Lehman: Well that will be a subject of a work session. We've already decided to do that so... Vanderhoef: Okay. Then I had a call today from Marilyn Belman and tomorrow morning at 10:00 at the Evert Connor's center at 720 South Dubuque Lieutenant Governor Sally Peterson is going to be here to announce a housing initiative that Governor Vilsack is moving forward with and he is using our accessible house as a model for part of his initiative. So anyone that could come they'd be welcome. And it's a good recognition to our City and the process that we went through to establish this great house. Kanner: Is that what you were mentioning, lrvin? Champion: Yes. Lehman: Yeah that's what Irvin said. P fab: She just... I gave the skeleton and she put the rest of the body on the skeleton. Lehman: Put the idea on it. Okay. Ross. Wilburn: Nothing tonight. Lehman: Steven? Kanner: I forgot to announce this last time an event happened a few days ago Gasoline Free Day that a number of people were participating in in a form of protest against the possible war in Iraq since a lot of that potential ~var involved the issue ofoil in the Mid-East. And along those lines I did want to mention again the article that Irvin submitted about a resolution that Chicago passed. Chicago City Council passed overwhelmingly I think it was 46-1 according to this article. And this was in our Council packet...our information packet actually number 15 from this past Thursday. So again I want to recommend people take a look at this. And one of the biggest cities in the country are passing resolutions and we might want to consider that also. I did want to also mention some interesting stats from the comprehensive financial report of Iowa City and recommend that people take a look at that. It's not all This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page 36 dry figures. Kevin O'Malley our Finance Director in his Department put together a very interesting report on the City. And a couple statistics I found interesting was the median age in Iowa City that went from 25.3 in 1950 going down to 22.6 in 1974 and it's back up to 25.4. So that's something to keep in mind. The baby boomers I guess have something to do with it. There's probably some other factors that figure into that. Well we're ali baby boomers minus one here. I just get in there under the wire. But it's an interesting statistic and I think it means a lot for our community. We do keep those things in mind I believe. And also the median family income went in 1990 from $39,000 to $57,000 in 2000. And this has policy implications in a lot of our resources are given to median income people and it's quite high. And again I would urge us to have a discussion on perhaps looking at lowering that median income as to who gets assistance from some our programs like CDBG and HOME and other funding sources. I did want to comment on our fine rec center. I was just there earlier today. And I had a friend come back who had been at UI and we went there a month or two ago and he said I never realized that it was free to come there to play pool or to use the gym. And it's a great resource. And it was busy tonight - all kinds of people there playing pool, ping-pong, basketball, the weight room, swimming. And I think it's one of our greatest strengths. I think we all realize that and I'm glad we support it the way ~ve do. Looking forward to the State League of Cities Lobby Day next Wednesday. It looks like Emie, Dee and myself are going to be going for that event and talking to some legislators about some different issues and finding out what's happening there on a state level and how that affects us. And then two final things. I had a question for Steve. I don't know if you could answer tonight but we had in our info packet number four was a memo about state and federal grants we got in fiscal year '02 and I was curious why the Edward Byrne grant went down to $2,600 in '01 and back up again to $48,000 in '02. Atkins: I'd have to check for you. It could be the time of the reporting of the actual receipt of the money. I knew it had mn in the $40,000 range Steven it had not changed dramatically over the years. I'll confirm that for you. Kanner: As you know I'm not a big fan of it and so I find that of interest. And the other thing I found of interest in that report was a listing of HOME funds in '01 and '02, but there was no listing of CDBG funds in that. Atkins: Okay. It could be a mistake. I'll check for you. Kam~er: Okay. I appreciate that. But I appreciate the report and it shows the extent that our Staff is out there getting these grants which are very important to our budget. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page 37 Pfab: Could I make one comment? Are you finished? Kanner: Yes. Thanks. Pfab: Is there...I'd like to just get a feel is there a sense as a Council that we as a City ~vould like to go on record as opposing the war in Iraq? I would encourage it, but I'm just speaking for myself. Kanner: I'd like to discuss it. I'd like to wait until we get a resolution and put it on the agenda. Pfab: Okay. Is it something...okay. What do we need three people interest...if we're going to do it how would we do it? Dilkes: Well if...xve need three of you to say you want to put it on the agenda. That's if and when we get the resolution. Lehman: Are there three people that would like to put it on the agenda? Kanner: I would recommend that we ~vait until we get the final version. I don't know if we have it here or at least be able to take a look at it lrvin before we decide... O'Donnell: I would like to see if there are three people. Lehman: Well I think that the most important thing is if there are three people that wish to discuss it? Pfab: I would be interested. Wilbum: I support the sentiment, but I don't...I'm not looking for the City Council to pass the resolution. I'm looking for individuals to step forward and write letters to Congress. Lehman: I concur with you. Pfab: I'm sorry. I didn't hear what you said. O'Dormell: Individuals. Wilburn: I said I support the sentiment against the war, but I think...I have to believe that it Would be more meaningful for individuals to step forward to write their Congress people. Pfab: But if they came forward... Wilburn: That's my opinion. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page38 Pfab: In other words I'm just asking would you be at that point...at that point would you be interested in supporting. Wilbum: Individuals to write their Congress person. Pfab: Okay. Lehman: I don't find three people who are interested in putting this on a work session. Remember the meeting Monday night 6:30 at the airport. Any issues that you have that you'd like to have discussed at that meeting would be extremely helpful if those issues can be in Marian's office tomoirow or...no tomorrow really. Kanner: By 9:00 a.m. on Thursday. Lehman: I don't know how exactly we're going to conduct this meeting, but I would really, really like to have specific issues, not general conversation. So if there are issues we want to talk about, let's talk about those issues and try to get some things really settled as opposed to having our meeting and then (can't hear) each other and going home. Dilkes: Tomorrow would really be better. I mean we have to put it then in agenda form and get it... Lehman: I'm well aware...and I'm asking the Airport Commission to do the same thing. We can have a list of things to discuss. Champion: I know what I want the end result to be, but I don't know...I know what answer I want, but I don't know what questions I need to ask to get to that. Lehman: We are not going to be governed totally by the list of questions we have. I just think it would be a more meaningful discussion if the airport has access to what our concerns are and we have at least some access to theirs instead of just going in cold. Champion: My concerns are one of their plans to become untaxable. Lehman: Right and I'm sure that's probably going to be... Vanderhoefi And another thing on the agenda that I would appreciate is speaking.., talking about the repayment of the infrastructure that was put into the... Lehman: Write it down. That is another issue that I think we've already got on... O'Donnell: These are all things that you should write down and ... This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page 39 Dilkes: Yeah because we need to get them on the agenda. Pfab: Right. If they're not on the agenda are we going to be precluded from... Lehman: No, no, no. Absolutely not, but I believe the discussion is going to be more meaningful if we know ahead of time what's going to be... Dilkes: Yes, you will be precluded from discussing them at... Lehman: Well we're discussing airport issues. Dilkes: Well I don't think that's sufficient. I mean you got to...you got to say what about. Are you going to talk about anything about the airport? Lehman: In previous meetings that we've had with the Airport Commission there has never been an agenda. We've all just always discussed airport issues period. And it went the full gamut of things relative to the airport. And I think that's really important because if we're going to be restricted to only those things that we are able to think of between now and tomorrow at 3:00 that could severally limit the effectiveness of that meeting. Pfab: But I think that that statement may not really hold water because there's seven of us, there's the people on the Airport Commission, there's the public, there's the Staff. ! think that by tomorrow or Thursday morning when we go to press so to speak I think that every issue that should be able to be discussed should be available to the public. Lehman: Yeah, but I think there will be issues even come up that night that we haven't thought of. Dilkes: I guess my memory of airport meetings is there's typically a basic topic that we're talking about. You know the fact that they need more funding or those kinds of things. I guess it's a little out of sync to me to require the Airport Commission for instance to post and agenda giving notice of what they're talking about, but then when the two bodies get together to just be able to talk about anything. Lehman: Anything relative to the airport. Atkins: Ernie why don't you give me a rrm at it. I'll try to make a detailed agenda. Champion: You know what we ~vant. Lehman: Okay. Dilkes: it just wouldn't hurt to give a little more notice. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #19 Page 40 Lehman: Okay then perhaps we can make very, very broad parameters. Dilkes: Yeah, that's fine. Lehman: Financial issues. Champion: Financial issues, accounting issues. Lehman: Alright. We got the message. Alright. That's all I have. Pfab: So at this point you're going to...? Atkins: I'll take care of the agenda. Champion: Real estate issues. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003 #20 Page41 ITEM 20 REPORT ON ITEMS FROM CITY STAFF. Lehman: Okay, Steve do you have anything else? Atkins: No, sir. Lehman: Eleanor? Dilkes: No. Lehman: Marian? Champion: I have one thing I'd like to say. Lehman: You just made it before. Champion: You keep talking about baby boomers. Lehman: Yes. Champion: Well a lot of us were baby boomers too after the Great War. We were also called baby boomers. Lehman: We still are. Champion: We still are. Lehman: Do we have a motion to adjourn O'Dormell: I would love to do that. Lehman: Moved by O'Donnell. Do we have a... Vanderhoef: Second. Lehman: Second by Vanderhoef. All in favor? Motion...the meeting is adjourn. Thank you. This represents only a reasonably accurate transcription of the Iowa City City Council meeting of February 4, 2003